The Job type sinner - PART 2

SERMON TOPIC: The Job type sinner - PART 2

Speaker: Ken Paynter

Language: ENGLISH

Date: 21 November 2020


Sermon synopsis: This type of sinner has been living a blessed, God protected life and then Satan is allowed to touch them.
- People are shocked by what God allows to happen to this type of sinner.
- When God has some great plan for your life, then He boasts to Satan about you, and Satan always takes up the challenge.
- Satan even took up the challenge of tempting and trying to destroy the Son of man, God incarnate.
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The Job type of sinner (Part 2)

This type of sinner has been living a blessed, God protected life and then Satan is allowed to touch them.

People are shocked by what God allows to happen to this type of sinner.

When God has some great plan for your life, then He boasts to Satan about you, and Satan always takes up the challenge.

Satan even took up the challenge of tempting and trying to destroy the Son of man, God incarnate.

The Job type sinner is on Satan’s radar.

Because they have a Father in heaven who is proud of them, and he is watching them run the race and it has reached the stage that He is so confident about them, that He has boasted about them to Satan.

When God the father has boasted about you, things are going to change, Satan is a powerful (adversary)and he has you in his sights and God has removed some of your hedge.

The whole world is under the control of 70 angelic beings (fallen angels) and the only good angelic being involved in the overseeing of the nations, is Michael the Prince of Israel, a nation which was established a while after the tower of babel.

Genesis chapter 10 constitutes what is known as “The Table of Nations” in the Bible. The text is as follows, “These are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth…”

In Jewish tradition there were 70 original nations after the Flood, corresponding to the 70 names in this chapter.


So it appears that after Babel and the division of the


nations by language, God allocated 70 angels to oversee the affairs of these nations in the spiritual realm.

The Sons of God (The divine council).

Deuteronomy 32:8-9. (ESV)

When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.

(GNT) The Most High assigned nations their lands; he determined where peoples should live. He assigned to each nation a heavenly being.

(ERV) God Most High separated the people on earth and gave each nation its land. He set up borders for all people. He made as many nations as there are angels.

Who is our struggle with?

Jesus alone was sinless.

There was only one perfect man, and that was God incarnate, the man Jesus Christ, the second Adam, crucified before the foundation of the earth.

Revelation 13:8.

All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast, all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

God created the world with the cross in full sight, knowing what it would cost Him to redeem mankind.

God created the angels and mankind.

God knew that some of the more powerful beings of the first creation (Angels), would rebel against Him. He knew that man too, would rebel and that sin would spread to all man-kind through pro-creation. He knew that some of His more powerful creatures would deceive and enslave mankind and that He Himself, God incarnate in the flesh, would have to by His atoning work on the cross, restore man-kind to Himself.

Are we able to define or recognize goodness?

Why do you think that God is good, well He gave me a good job, He gave me a nice car and house, He gave me a wonderful family.

If that is your reasoning, then if you loose your job, your house, your family, is God still good?

Job had it all and it was taken from him, and still he kept his integrity and did not blame God.

At this, Job got up and tore his robe and shaved his head. Then he fell to the ground in worship and said:

At this, Job got up and tore his robe and shaved his head. Then he fell to the ground in worship and said:

Naked I came from my mother’s womb, and naked I will depart.

The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away; may the name of the LORD be praised.

In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing.

God is good and faithful?

Then Job is afflicted from head to toe with boils.

His friends after a week of silence opened their mouths, and gave him bad counsel.

Finally Job protests his suffering and God answers Job.

Job 38:1-7.

Then the LORD spoke to Job out of the storm.

He said: Who is this that obscures my plans with words without knowledge?

Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me.

Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? ………

Job sees himself and answers the Lord.

Job 42:4-6.

You said, Listen now, and I will speak; I will question you, and you shall answer me.

My ears had heard of you but now my eyes have seen you.

Therefore I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes.

There are three root sources of suffering for us as Christians.

Our flesh (our physical body with it’s desires, weakened by our sinful nature)

The World (Society and it’s materialistic values and amoral ideals)

Satan and the rulers of this world (gods, that man has allied himself with rather than the almighty God)

The faith worthies.

God hasn’t called us to a life of comfort and ease

2 Timothy 3:12.

All that will live Godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.

The Lord has called us to a race, a fight. He says step into the arena with me.

Let us now look at some other examples of Job type sinners that are recorded for us in Scripture.

Men and women, who stepped into the arena of faith before men and before angels and stood steadfast.

The faith worthies.

Hebrews 11:35-40.

There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment.

They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword.

The faith worthies.

Hebrews 11:35-40 (continued)

They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground. These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.

Sin and the sinner.

We have all sinned: Romans 3:9- 18 & 23.

We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners.

We are all sinners, but there are different types of sinners.

Gods solution for our sin problem was (Watchmanee)

For Jesus to live a sinless life and to die so that we can die in him and

Just as he rose from the dead we can live a life of victory as we reckon ourselves dead to sin.

The self aware sinner.

Psalm 51:1-5.

Have mercy on me, O God, according to your unfailing love; according to your compassion blot out my transgressions. Wash away all my iniquity and cleanse me from my sin.

For I know my transgressions, and my sin is always before me. Against you, you only, have I sinned and done what is evil in your sight; so you are right in your verdict and justified when you judge. Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

We, like Paul, need to be dealt with by the cross.

Our sins are dealt with by the blood, but that’s not the only problem, we will sin again because we are sinners.

Illustration: (Watchman Nee)

If we destroy all the liquor in town we haven't solved the alcohol problem as there are breweries and they are going to manufacture more, you can’t just deal with the product, you have to deal with the manufacturer. In the same way when our sin is washed away we need to deal with ourselves as we are sinners, we are sin factories.

So how does God deal with the sinner?

The sin is dealt with by the blood, but the sinner is dealt with by the cross.

Provision is made for us, when we mess up.

1 John 1:7.

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.

Sanctification just like Salvation is a work of God it just needs our cooperation.

Hebrews 10:4.

For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

The faith worthies.

Hebrews 12:1-4.

Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith.

For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Consider him who endured such opposition from sinners, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.

In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.

Hardships so that we can share in His Holiness.

Hebrews 12:7-11.

Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as his children. For what children are not disciplined by their father?... Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live!

They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in his holiness.

No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.

Like Paul, we need to be dealt with by the cross.

Galatians 2:2:20.

I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

If you didn’t realize that you died when you believed, then why did you have a funeral? Baptism is a burial service.

Colossians 2:11-12.

Your whole self ruled by the flesh was put off when you were circumcised by Christ, having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead.

Baptism is a funeral service.

Baptism is symbolic of the death of our life (A funeral, or burial) so that Christ can live His resurrected life through us.

The Job type sinner.

There were a lot of this type of sinner in the early Church, and they turned the world upside down.

Let us have a closer look at Paul, another Job type sinner.

It costs to be this type of sinner.

Acts 9:15-16.

But the Lord said to Ananias, Go!

This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.

I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.

Paul calls himself the worst of sinners.

1 Timothy 1:12-15.

I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has given me strength, that he considered me trustworthy, appointing me to his service.

Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief.

The grace of our Lord was poured out on me abundantly, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus.

Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst.


Saul/Paul the persecutor.

Acts 9:1-6.

Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord’s disciples. He went to the high priest and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem.

Saul/Paul sees Jesus.

Acts 9:1-6.

As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him,

Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?

Who are you, Lord? Saul asked. I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting, he replied.

Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.

Acts 9:7-12.

The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing.

So they led him by the hand into Damascus.

For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything.

Acts 9:7-12.

In Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in a vision, Ananias! Yes, Lord, he answered. The Lord told him, Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying. In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias come and place his hands on him to restore his sight.

Acts 9:13-16.

Lord, Ananias answered, I have heard many reports about this man and all the harm he has done to your holy people in Jerusalem. And he has come here with authority from the chief priests to arrest all who call on your name.

But the Lord said to Ananias, Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.

We ourselves operating in hind sight, know why Jesus revealed Himself to Saul of Tarsus, but imagine Ananias. This guy Paul is imprisoning and killing Christians and yet God reveals Himself to him?

The Job type of sinner.

Paul, went on to establish and strengthen the Church he had tried to destroy, he wrote much of the New Testament, some of the letters were written in prison.

We sometimes don’t see this type of person as a sinner, but they are sinners that God has a great destiny for.

The course of action to develop this type of sinner is suffering.

Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego.

Daniel 3:16-18. Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego replied to him, King Nebuchadnezzar, we do not need to defend ourselves before you in this matter. If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to deliver us from it, and he will deliver us from Your Majesty’s hand.

But even if he does not, we want you to know, Your Majesty, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you’ve set up.

Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego.

Daniel 3:23-25.

And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace. Then King Nebuchadnezzar was astonished; and he rose in haste and spoke, saying to his counselors, Did we not cast three men bound into the midst of the fire?

They answered and said to the king, True, O king.

Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego.

Daniel 3:23-25.

Look! he answered, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire; and they are not hurt, and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

Just as the Lord was with them in the flames, the Job type sinner wants to know the fellowship of His suffering.

The fellowship of sharing in his sufferings.

Paul says all things that he boasted in before are like garbage compared to sharing in Christ’s sufferings.

Philippians 3: 1-10.

Further, my brothers and sisters, rejoice in the Lord! It is no trouble for me to write the same things to you again, and it is a safeguard for you.

Watch out for those dogs, those evildoers, those mutilators of the flesh. For it is we who are the circumcision, we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh though I myself have reasons for such confidence.

Philippians 3: 1-10 (continued)

If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more:

Circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for righteousness based on the law, faultless.

But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ.

Philippians 3: 1-10 (continued)

What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things.

I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith.

I want to know Christ yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death

Do you want to be like Jesus?

A man of sorrows, acquainted with Grief.

Or is it a life of comfort that you are seeking and you have been deceived by false teachings that the Lord somehow has that on offer, a life of holiness without a cross, a life of victory without a fight?

Paul a prisoner condemned to die.

1 Corinthians 9-13.

For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like those condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to human beings.

We are fools for Christ, but you are so wise in Christ!

We are weak, but you are strong!

You are honored, we are dishonored!

The Job type sinner pays a high price.

1 Corinthians 9-13 (continued)

To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless.

We work hard with our own hands.

When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it; when we are slandered, we answer kindly.

We have become the scum of the earth, the garbage of the world, right up to this moment.

Rome’s triumphal procession.

After a Roman army would conquer a particular tribe or

people, there would be a ticker tape parade.

The Roman senate would vote to give the conquering Army and General a Triumph parade.

First, rank upon rank of trumpeters would march by.

Next came the older Roman senators, leading men of the city, such as, rich merchants, government officials, etc.

The aroma of Rome’s triumphal procession.

Then came the army with wagon loads of spoil taken in victory.

Finally, the hero and conquering general came riding in a chariot while wearing the garb associated with Jupiter: purple and gold robes.

At the very end of the procession came the enemy prisoners who would later provide entertainment in the arena with the wild animals and Gladiators.

Alongside this procession were people swinging censers filled with sweet-smelling incense. Various bonfires would be burning here and there along the route.

People would pour perfume into the flames so the smell of its fragrance would fill the air. Also, fragrant flowers would be cast by the spectators into the path of the parade and crushed by the hundreds of marching feet.

The aroma of Christ’s triumphal procession.

2 Corinthians 2:14-15.

But thanks be to God, who always leads us as captives in Christ’s triumphal procession and uses us to spread the aroma of the knowledge of him everywhere. For we are to God the pleasing aroma of Christ among those who are being saved and those who are perishing.

The treasure is the aroma of the knowledge of Christ.

2 Corinthians 4:6-7.

For God, who said, Let light shine out of darkness, made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God’s glory displayed in the face of Christ. But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us.

Treasure in jars of clay.

God doesn't use beautiful flasks to house His fragrance. He has chosen to put the treasure of His fragrance in clay pots. He uses earthen vessels, not the fine china.

He takes simple clay pots and fills them with His glory. Fragile and flawed, cracked and leaky clay pots are His choice vessels.

From Scripture we see how the Lord allows us to be broken so that the fragrance of the knowledge of Jesus can flow from our lives and touch those around us.

The Job type sinner will face the lions.

Damnatio ad bestias (Latin for "condemnation to beasts") was a form of Roman capital punishment in which the condemned person was killed by wild animals, usually lions or other big cats.

This form of execution, which first came to ancient Rome

around the 2nd century BC, was part of the wider class of

blood sports called Bestiarii.


The Job type sinner will face the lions.

Peter, who Jesus had prophesied would be martyred, wrote this to the early Church.

1 Peter 5:8

Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

In His fore-knowledge, God knew of the Roman circus and how the Christians were to be led down to the arena with the crowds watching and laughing at them.

He knew that there would be secret Christians in the crowd that Satan would be saying to:

Is this what you want, what kind of a God allows this to happen to those he loves?

The Job type sinner will face the lions.

Yet again and again in Scripture and through the example of those who were the foundation stones of the Church and through Jesus Himself, the very corner stone of the Church, God has warned of the cost involved in being a disciple of Christ and said before you start to build, count the cost.

Daniel second only to the King.

Daniel 6:3-5.

Now Daniel so distinguished himself among the administrators and the satraps by his exceptional qualities that the king planned to set him over the whole kingdom.

At this, the administrators and the satraps tried to find grounds for charges against Daniel in his conduct of government affairs, but they were unable to do so.

They could find no corruption in him, because he was trustworthy and neither corrupt nor negligent.

Finally these men said, We will never find any basis for charges against this man Daniel unless it has something to do with the law of his God.

Daniel’s choice, stop praying or be thrown into the lions den.

Daniel 6:6-9.

So these administrators and satraps went as a group to the king and said: May King Darius live forever! The royal administrators, prefects, satraps, advisers and governors have all agreed that the king should issue an edict and enforce the decree that anyone who prays to any god or human being during the next thirty days, except to you, Your Majesty, shall be thrown into the lions’ den.

Now, Your Majesty, issue the decree and put it in writing so that it cannot be altered, in accordance with the law of the Medes and Persians, which cannot be repealed. So King Darius put the decree in writing.

Daniel’s choice.

Daniel 6:10-12.

Now when Daniel learned that the decree had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before.

Then these men went as a group and found Daniel praying and asking God for help. So they went to the king and spoke to him about his royal decree: Did you not publish a decree that during the next thirty days anyone who prays to any god or human being except to you, Your Majesty, would be thrown into the lions’ den?

Daniel’s choice.

Daniel 6:13-14.

Then they said to the king, Daniel, who is one of the exiles from Judah, pays no attention to you, Your Majesty, or to the decree you put in writing. He still prays three times a day. When the king heard this, he was greatly distressed; he was determined to rescue Daniel and made every effort until sundown to save him.

Daniel’s choice.

Can you imagine the thought of being torn to pieces by lions, yet to Daniel, it was not enough to get him to turn from the True God of Israel and worship a man.

Daniel 6:16-18.

So the king gave the order, and they brought Daniel and threw him into the lions’ den.

The king said to Daniel, May your God, whom you serve continually, rescue you!

A stone was brought and placed over the mouth of the den, and the king sealed it with his own signet ring and with the rings of his nobles, so that Daniel’s situation might not be changed.

Suffering and persecution of Christians.

Suffering and persecution of Christians.

In the recent strife in Iraq, Christians were given choices.

Say the prayer of conversion to Islam.

Get out and leave all your possessions.

Stay and pay a heavy tax as an infidel.

Be beheaded.

Peter sees himself.

Luke 5:8.

When Simon Peter saw this, he fell at Jesus knees and said, Go away from me, Lord; I am a sinful man!

1 Peter 4:1-2.

Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body,

arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because whoever suffers in the body is done with sin. As a result, they do not live the rest of their earthly lives for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God.

Peter and Paul.

Both Peter and Paul were martyred in Rome about 66 AD, during the persecution under the Roman Emperor Nero. Paul was beheaded. Peter was crucified, upside down at his request, since he did not feel he was worthy to die in the same manner as his Lord.

The Job type sinner.

Abraham left everything to follow God and finally he was prepared to offer his only son in obedience to God.

Many missionaries, great men and woman of God have been prepared to lay everything on the altar for God, either by choosing to live a celibate life or to send their children to schools in places like the UK and themselves going to India or China.

Those who went with children, often lost more than half of them to sickness or disease.

I am not trying to force celibacy on anyone and neither was Paul, but if it suited God’s plan better, then there were those who paid the price of a life of celibacy.

Isaiah a Job type sinner, sees himself.

As God reveals himself to us, we see ourselves as we really are,

Isaiah: 6:1 & 5.

Woe to me! I cried. I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the LORD Almighty.


The time and manner of his death are not specified in either the Bible or other primary sources. The Talmud [Yevamot 49b] says that he suffered martyrdom by being sawn in two under the orders of Manasseh. (Wikipedia)

James .

The author is widely thought to be James the half-brother of Jesus.

James was not a follower of Jesus during the Savior’s time on earth. He was stoned to death in AD 62 or AD 69.

James 1:2-4.

Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance.

Let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.

Persecution from the world.

John 15:18-25.

If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember what I told you:

A servant is not greater than his master. If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also…

But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law:

They hated me without reason.

The Apostle John exiled.

PAT'MOS (pat'mos).

A small, rocky island belonging to the group called "Sporades," in that part of the Aegean known as the Icarian Sea.

On account of its rocky, barren, and desolate nature the Roman government used the island as a place of banishment for criminals.

The prisoners were compelled to work the mines of the island. The emperor Domitian banished the apostle John to this island (Rev 1:9), A.D. 95.

The New Unger's Bible Dictionary.

The Apostle John sees the Lord.

Revelation 4:8.

Each of these four living creatures had six wings and was covered all over with eyes, inside and out.

Day and night they never stop saying: Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty. He was, he is, and he is coming

1 John 3:6.

No one who continues to sin has either seen Him or known Him.

If you have had an encounter with Jesus, you will know why John says this in his epistle, because the Lord only reveals Himself to the sincere seeker, and opens their eyes to their sinfulness so that He can deal with it.

The Lord is not offering a charmed life of blessing and prosperity free from trials and suffering.

On the contrary, the Lord said to His disciples, if you want to be my disciples take up your cross and follow me. There is no doubt what Jesus was saying, the Romans crucified those who defied them on the road side leading in and out of the city.

This was to constantly remind the populace that there was a long torturous death awaiting those who did not submit to Roman rule.

There is a cross for you if you choose to follow Christ.

We wear crosses of gold and silver and hang them around our necks as jewellery, but the cross was not just a symbol of death to those following Jesus, it was a symbol of suffering, it took days to die.

Some like John the Baptist (Matthew 11) get offended by the closing chapter of God’s story for their lives, but Scripture is full of the truth of what I have shared today.

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